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Showing posts with label Buying property in Ecuador. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Buying property in Ecuador. Show all posts

Thursday, October 24, 2013

Buying condos in Quito, Ecuador. Part three. October 2013.

Real estate prices in Quito, Ecuador, gone up substantially since 2006 (when I started to visit Ecuador). For example, in 2007 I bought 2br/1ba, 4th floor (nice view) condo in Centro Historico for $20K. In 2011 another norteamericano bought 3br/1ba, 2nd floor(no city view) condo in our conjunto (association) for $40K.
 Still, if you have money, it makes sense to buy place, condo or house, here in Ecuador, because
1) property tax in Ecuador is one-tenth of US property tax.
2) association fees are much less (unless you manage to buy property in certain areas).
3) No air-conditioning (in the mountains), no heating required, utilities are cheaper than in US.
4) Ecuador bureaucracy is not as intrusive(yet) as in US, there are much less rules in Ecuadorian conjunto (unless you buy property in gringo community) and it is easier to rent your place out.   

Buying condos in Quito, Ecuador. Part two



Monthly rental in Quito, for tourists and expats.
We have a 2 bedroom, 1 bath totally remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental.blogspot.com


Saturday, October 19, 2013

Buying condos in Quito, Ecuador. Part two. October 2013.


Buying condos in Quito, Ecuador. Part one
http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2013/10/buying-condos-in-quito-ecuador-october.html

If I would had $80 -$100K to invest, I would buy another rental in Quito.
Location criteria: anywhere in between Ecovia's bus stops "Rio Coca" and "Plaza Galo", on east side of street "6 de Diciembre", short walking distance from the bus stop.

Apartment criteria: 3- 5th floor, ideally corner unit/top floor (less neighbors), bedroom(s) facing yard or quiet place, reasonably far from schools and churches, building with security and/or concierge, monthly association fee less than $100.

For person with moderate-income, who want to walk and take the bus almost everywhere - it will be an ideal location.



Monthly rental in Quito, for tourists and expats.
We have a 2 bedroom, 1 bath totally remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental.blogspot.com



Sunday, October 13, 2013

Buying condos in Quito, Ecuador. October 2013.


Every time I buy an apartment in Quito the neighborhood improves dramatically within next few years.
Two years after I bought La Ronda condo, the bus station around the corner from my apartment building was moved, the Plaza outside of my conjunto was remodeled and the city almost done building recreational complex Cumanda where bus station used to be.  
Two and a half years after I bought North Quito condo, old airport was shut down and now we have Bicentennial Park instead of airport. It is not around the corner though, I take bus there. Five or six bus stops from my apartment building and I am at the Park, good enough for me.

Buying condos in Quito, Ecuador. Part two.

Monthly rental in Quito, for tourists and expats.
We have a 2 bedroom, 1 bath totally remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental.blogspot.com





Saturday, December 29, 2012

Warning to potential investors in Ecuador. December 2012.

From ExpatExchange Forum.
http://www.expatexchange.com/expat/index.cfm?frmid=202&tpcid=3368509

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I am building a small hotel in Ayangue. My neighbor behind me is politician. His security guard is the president of the comuna. When I was 1/2 finished building my walls the Commecerio issued a stop work order under the pretense that they wanted to build a 20 foot wide road across the top of my property where the hotel will be located. That was 6 weeks ago. We have seen the mayor in Santa Elena and he said he will help but after that every time we go to see him he is busy. There is absolutely no need for a road across my property and there was no due process (no notice to me) that a road was going to be built. Even the lawyer for the municipio agrees that I am in the right. The builder is frozen and will not work without a letter from the government that the injunction has been lifted. This was all done because the politician did not want me building my hotel to the side and lower in front of his house. He will still have a view. I am regretting buying this land now and fed up with the run around I am getting from the government. I thought Ecuador was trying to get rid of government corruption. Anyone else ever have to deal with a corrupt government? I have a lot of money tied up in this project. This is the second major issue I have had with my neighbors and I am about 9 months behind schedule due to all the problems. These kind of things don't happen in the US. I would not recommend anyone investing a lot of money in a business in Ecuador due to the corruption I have seen. The courts are a mess and you cannot get anything done in them as they are so far behind. At this point I have no option but to push for a resolution. If I had known about such corruption and lack of transparency in the government in Ecuador I would never have invested there. Just a word to the wise, if you have legal problems in Ecuador, you will be VERY frustrated with the lack of concern by the government or the courts. Ecuador is not investment friendly. Just a warning to anyone thinking of investing there.

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totally remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental.blogspot.com

Thursday, October 4, 2012

Ecuador Real Estate Report - Salinas/Punta Carnero. October 2012.


Monthly rental in Quito, for tourists and expats.
3 bedroom, 1 bath remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental2.blogspot.com








Part one
http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2012/09/ecuador-real-estate-report-part-one.html

from Hector G. Quintana
RDRHGQ@gmail.com
Salinas/Punta Carnero Strong Buy / On Watch
Perennial favorite Salinas has done well for us over the years and continues a “strong buy”, but alas some cracks have begun to show, meriting that it be placed “on watch”, for a possible downgrade in 2013. While the downgrade, if it even occurs, is unlikely to take Salinas below the level of “buy”, it warrants some analysis. Salinas has been the undisputed premiere resort community for the Ecuadorian elite and middle-class for quite some time. Unfortunately, it seems that this positive designation has led to a bit of resting on its laurels, or, at least reputation. This has led to several other alternate beach towns flexing their muscles over the last 5 years and Salinas is not alone anymore, as a vacation hot spot, although it still remains in a class by itself - for now. This trend of relying on its past glory, forsaken much in the way of innovation, coupled with two other developments, leads Salinas to go “on watch” for 2012. The first of the two developments is the continuously stalled finalization of the commercial terminal, to truly brand the Salinas Airport as international worthy. While to some extent this is more a psychological boost, than a major economic catalyst, the continued, now postponed a minimum of 5 times, goes directly to the previous issue of the cities inability to generate meaningful progress and chance. A failure to have a clear time line for the airport’s completion by 2013 will be viewed as a negative indicator for the region. Secondly, since breaking off as its own Province, Santa Elena continues to struggle with unemployment and poverty, to an unfavorable degree compared to the national average. This year, while most Provincial governments were able to point towards an increase in economic activity and a decrease in unemployment, Santa Elena was listed amongst a handful of laggards that did not meet the grade. While Salinas, proper, is largely spared this indignity, well outperforming the Provincial averages, how long before the Provincial problems come to roost at the door of Salinas? Without a more cohesive, cooperative and consistent Province-wide economic plan in place by 2013, the view for Salinas will be negatively impacted. Salinas remains a fantastic investment option for now, but storm clouds are appearing on the horizon. Let us hope the winds of change blow them away.

Item of Note: Many locals might feel slighted at the failure to mention Punta Carnero, which many see as having its own individuality as opposed to Salinas. Still, so long as Punta Carnero falls under the same local municipality control as Salinas, it is hard to separate the two. Punta Carnero remains the quieter, more serene, surfer side of the peninsula, for Salinas proper. However, it would be egregious not to mention the extensive level of renovation taking place Punta Carnero side, including the launching of two newer hostels, the pending arrival of an exciting new condominium tower project, unlike anything seen on the Ecuadorian coast and the possible repositioning of the Hotel Punta Carnero into something different...and better.

Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Ecuador Real Estate Report - Cuenca. October 2012.

Monthly rental in Quito, for tourists and expats.
3 bedroom, 1 bath remodeled
Colonial Quito, furnished apartment for rent.
For booking, pictures and more info
http://quitorental2.blogspot.com







Part one
http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2012/09/ecuador-real-estate-report-part-one.html

from Hector G. Quintana
RDRHGQ@gmail.com
Cuenca Sell
I just referred to Vilcabamba as likely the second most relatively overpriced real estate market in Ecuador. Welcome to #1, with a bullet! Let’s get the platitudes out of the way. Cuenca is a visually stunning city, with a colonial charm, beautiful rivers, a reasonably diverse social/cultural scene (With respect, one which may be somewhat exaggerated by some) and the largest per capita expat population in Ecuador. No one is questioning that the charms of Cuenca beckon.

Before we get to the central issue as to why Cuenca remains a sell for the third straight year and counting, let us not be amiss in pointing out some of charming Cuenca’s notable warts. The surge of new inhabitants, many of them expats, has left the city much more notably crowded, polluted and has created a defined division between some of the locals and the incoming expats. Yes...it happens everywhere, but nowhere have I seen this conflict more obvious and well-defined than in Cuenca. Additionally, Cuenca competes with Manta for second place honors (Quito “wins” this category hands down), for having one of the more difficult traffic congestion problems to resolve. What, someone familiar with Ecuador might say? Have you forgotten Guayaquil? No, I have not. The Guayaquil problem may be worse, at present, but with money it can be resolved. Not the case in Cuenca...or Manta for that fact. Problem is that both of these cities need some streets widened to improve increased traffic flow. Problem for both cities is that they way they are designed did not account for the streets being widened...unless...of course...you do not mind consuming 10 feet of storefront space, along commercial establishments. Note...I did not say “sidewalk”, I am talking actually absorbing in use commercial space. Trust me, having served on a USA Planning Commission for 4 years...this is ugly business. Lastly, please do not let anyone sell you on the “Spring-like weather year round” story. Bull-hockey! Cuenca can be cold...bitingly cold. Despite the fact that a dear friend of mine there struts about in a t-shirt in 35 degree weather...it can get cold. And, yes...the rain is “occasional”, if by “occasional”, you mean falls like clockwork, at designated times throughout the day...almost daily.

Against the many charms and several warts that Cuenca shows, there is the real estate pricing issue. I get it. In fact, I preach it all the time. Supply and demand. However, no matter how many times the nice real estate agent chants this mantra, there is nothing in the history of Ecuador, or global real estate market trends, to suggest that it is “sustainable” to have prices in Cuenca exceed those of coastal Ecuador (Ocean trumps mountains every time) or even...ready for this...Quito!

It has gotten to the point that if I am a smart shopper, I can get a better deal for a similar quality, similarly located real estate asset in Quito than I can in Cuenca. Folks, Quito is the capitol of Ecuador. It is underpinned by, as much as it pains me to say, the government economic complex. Governments do not tend to get smaller over time, hence, Quito has the steady drumbeat of an increasing population serving the government monolith. It has a core economic basis to sustain the population trend that can drive real estate demand higher. Quito is everything Cuenca is...only more. Greater historical significance...more diverse cultural activities...better shopping...more restaurants...larger city...same sierra setting...and, yes, an even worse traffic problem. Still, added altogether, Quito should show significantly higher prices than Cuenca. It does not. For years, I have made the comparison of Cuenca vs. the coast, so this year I thought of looking at it from a Cuenca vs. Quito perspective. Still not good news for Cuenca.

In short, Cuenca has seen global hype like no other city in Ecuador. I suspect that many future Expats are still considering this locale on their short list. The prices do not warrant the investment. The current real estate price surge is simply not supported by economic fundamentals or global/Ecuadorian historical real estate trends. A mania is a mania, no matter how enticing it may seem for a while. Tulips, anyone? Think Holland. Circa 1630. The populace was willing to pay, at its peak, more than 10 times the annual income of a skilled craftsman, for a single tulip bulb. Please, don’t ask me why. Read history...it does the mind good. It happened. People paid those prices. There was no fundamentally good reason behind this...then the bottom fell out. Happens with manias all the time, no matter how temporarily “real” they seem. Fundamentals are a pesky thing and will ultimately reinsert themselves. If you want to buy Cuenca, wait until the eventual return of fundamentals. Until then, use every bit of mania hype news as an excuse to sell...sell...sell. Your wallet will thank you later.

Thursday, September 27, 2012

Ecuador Real Estate Report - Quito. September 2012.











Part one
http://dayinquito.blogspot.com/2012/09/ecuador-real-estate-report-part-one.html

from Hector G. Quintana
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Quito Buy / On Watch
Guayaquil vs. Quito - the age old debate. Coastal vs. Sierra. Commercial Capitol vs. Government Capitol. New age architecture vs. colonial simplicity. The debate may rage, but from our perspective, both share a common trait - they are repeat “offenders” on our “buy” list. However, perhaps their most glaring difference is that Guayaquil is “on watch” for a possible upgrade, while Quito is “on watch” for a possible downgrade. The tale of Guayaquil has already been told...now, it is time to focus on Quito.

Quito is, quite obviously, the capitol of Ecuador. It has been a growing and expanding city for years. While the commercial sector has played an important part of this growth, the primary underpinning catalyst is government sector job creation. The city is blessed with this strong element of economic growth, as well as a picturesque Sierra setting. Worthy of a capitol city, Quito offers excellent shopping, dining, cultural and social activities, rivaled only by Guayaquil. It has a colonial sector that is breathtaking and also boasts well-dispersed community parks, which bring Ecuador’s bountiful nature within easy reach of this diverse population. Quito offers many positive advantages, which have kept the city on our buy list for 3 straight years. However, a long standing problem threatens to derail the continued good news coming out of Quito.

Folks, Quito has a transportation problem. Not quite in the way Bangkok does, but not all that distinct to offer comfort to the weary traveler. However, unlike Bangkok, no ready solutions, or concerted efforts seem at the ready, for a permanent solution. I do not want to say it this harshly, but it is almost as if the growing problem continues to be conveniently swept under the proverbial rug, until some new press article or community group raises it anew. Then the problem, in typical government fashion, is “reviewed” and then gently...swiftly...kicked under the rug...again. Quito needs to come to terms with its significant transportation problem, with a limited set of solutions prevalent. Let’s look at two quick factors that underpin how serious and challenging this problem has become.

First, Quito outgrew its airport. The airport was simply not worthy of a capitol city. It was located in a horrid location, in order to promote transit to core central areas. The airport was probably the second or third worst to land in, throughout all Ecuador, making it a logistical piloting nightmare. Quito now has a brand new airport, located in an even more inaccessible locale...which may not have even resolved the strategic landing issues at all. When a solution is as bad, or worse, than the original problem, you start to understand the challenges faced by Quito’s transportation industry.

Quito authorities did not set out to establish a worse airport. I do believe, from where I sit, that better options existed. However, Quito lies in a mountain valley, where readily available land for a major expansion project, like an airport, isn’t easy to find. It is easier to build upward in Quito than outward. This geographic challenge further defines the road congestion nightmare, where, basically, one feeder road services the entire metro area, running north to south. Expanding out is not as easy as it sounds, due to geographic constraints. The talk has turned to, seriously, an underground metro system. Folks, Quito suffers from a serious earthquake problem. I will not belabor this point, but building underground metro systems, in an earthquake prone zone, while not impossible, is seldom advisable and merits great discretion and attention to detail in competing the project out to a company that will not skimp on materials, safety and project oversight. Does this make anyone else nervous, besides me? Ecuador does not have the best history of project quality control. I know I wouldn’t want to be in a subterranean metro, when the earth starts to shake, rattle and roll. I will not discount the suggestion outright, but only caution that Quito cannot afford another “solution” that only makes a bad situation worse, like the recent airport relocation. If the serious transportation issue remains unaddressed, or worsens, we would be forced to downgrade Quito to a “sell”.

However, in the meantime, there remains too much growth in Quito, with pricing more attractive than less fundamentally sound locations, such as Cuenca, for it to be ignored as a place to buy. Our suggestion is to hedge your bets accordingly, as to whether the transportation solutions are forthcoming or not. If they are, your best bet is likely to take a longer-term outlook and invest in off-plan, or new construction condos. Dozens of fabulous projects are being built, or scheduled to be built, with a projected reasonable absorption rate. The new projects, in many instances, bring enlightened architectural touches or amenities lacking in older structures, but are being “pre-sold” at prices equivalent to, or lower than, the older resale properties. Snatch one or more up and enjoy the appreciation. If you are concerned about our warnings of a possible downgrade, then look to a more immediate outlook strategy, by acquiring a rehab property in an established neighborhood, or a quality property in an up and coming neighborhood. Either option, bought correctly, should give you a safe exit strategy within 12-24 months time. If the transportation storm brews, you should be able to come in from out of the rain, without getting all washed out. Quito remains a solid buy...for now.
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Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Ecuador Real Estate Report. Part one. September 2012





from Hector G. Quintana
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I generally release extremely condensed excerpts from real estate country analysis reports on July 1, 2012, for public consumption. This year, business matters and various personal matters have kept me from being punctual. Utilizing the better late than never theory, I offer them as segmented summaries, with each city having its own thread. I wanted to present them in one Ecuador thread, but it would be huge. Frankly, many people won’t even read them and those that do will likely want to focus on one or two cities. I would say that this format will cause folks to have to “hunt and peck” for data, but I still deemed it the lesser of two evils.

This data is presented only for those who have an interest in their real estate purchase, also being an investment asset. For those just looking to buy a pretty house, no point in reading further. The perspectives shared are not for every buyer. Some have different motivations for their purchase, besides sound investing, and those perspectives should be equally respected.

We have a simple system for rating a locale:

Sell - We recommend selling your asset or portfolio as quickly as possible.
Hold - If you have bought already, hang onto the asset and wait for further market developments. If you have not bought already, then do not buy now, but perhaps begin to look around for future opportunities.
Buy - Means that it is a good time to acquire an initial or additional real estate asset in that sub-market, due to favorable long-term market trends.
Strong Buy - Means that an exceptional market opportunity exists and that the time is right for the immediate consideration of an initial or additional real estate asset acquisition in this sub-market. For those looking at portfolio diversity, spreading assets across “strong buy” markets is advised, prior to focusing on “buy” markets, if investment opportunities is your sole or primary reason for purchasing real estate.

We also employ two trending systems. The first is an upward mobility and downward mobility system intended to dictate if this property market is in an upswing or downswing from the last time we reported on it. Upswing markets will be denoted by an ? and downswing markets by a ?.

Also, we place certain markets “on watch”. This is neither a necessarily good or bad thing, but a caution that a pending review to upgrade or downgrade the market is imminent. We try our best to project whether that review is likely to be positive or negative, but some market dynamics are so complex that this projection is not always 100% accurate. it should be used for guidance and not as statements of certainty.

Without further delay...here is data for the market you selected to view:
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to be continued